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發表於 2009-6-20 01:45:22 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
本帖最後由 banana 於 2009-6-26 13:06 編輯

Hello IFG and other TalkOnly hosts,

Since you guys are not playing any songs, can you folks LOWER the Bitrates
of your broadcasts and program archives?

Currently, it appears your live broadcast with Real Player is streaming at
48 kbps, and at 84 kbps with Windows Media Player.   Comparatively, RTHK-1
is broadcasting live on the internet only at 20.7 kbps and their sound quality
is quite good.   TalkOnly's much higher streaming bitrate is straining listeners
with older computers and/or slower internet connection.  Overseas audience
like me is adversely affected in particular.

Similarly, your program archives are encoded at 56 kbps which is
much higher than RTHK's 20.8 kbps and MyRadio's 24 kbps.  This means
the File Size of every segment of your program archives is HUGE.  Couple
with an unstable server with limited capacity, downloading TalkOnly program
archives from afar becomes an extremely frustrating task!   I say, perhaps
98% of the time, downloading would be completed immaturely!  

Shrinking the file size will definitely help.   Alternatively, please consider
uploading your archives to Sendspace, U-File, .... etc.

Another problem with your program archives is that segments older than
the current week
CANNOT be downloaded by right-clicking the mouse
button.  This means your audience CANNOT use "Save Target As" and
specify a particular directory to store the file.

These older archives can still be downloaded by left-clicking the segment name.
However, the file will be stored in one of the many Temporary Internet File folders,
forcing your audience to search for its exact location later.  Another drawback is,
without a download popup window, your audience cannot monitor the file transfer
progess/process.  
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發表於 2009-6-20 02:05:18 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2009-6-20 05:09:03 | 顯示全部樓層
I don't got the chance to listen to live broadcast. It takes 20 minutes to download most of the show from Los Angeles by using download manager software. I support lower the bandwidth makes the download much faster for most overseas audiences.
發表於 2009-6-22 01:21:17 | 顯示全部樓層
To deadend2000

Thank you for your advice. We will test on different bitrates to make sure everythings okay for oversea audiences. However, it takes time as the sound quality may be affected. Meanwhile, we will try to distribute archives via torrent for faster download soon.

Stay Tuned.
 樓主| 發表於 2009-6-26 13:34:27 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 banana 於 2009-6-26 14:14 編輯
deadend2000 發表於 2009-6-20 05:09
I don't got the chance to listen to live broadcast.  It takes 20 minutes to download most of the show from Los Angeles by using download manager software.  I support lower the bandwidth .....


Ah, download manager software, may be that's what I need.
Could you please tell me which one you're using?   

Is there any other recommendation from you hi-tech gurus?  
 樓主| 發表於 2009-6-26 15:50:44 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 banana 於 2009-6-26 15:52 編輯
talkonly 發表於 2009-6-22 01:21
To deadend2000
..... We will test on different bitrates to make sure everythings okay for oversea audiences.  However, it takes time as the sound quality may be affected.  Meanwhile, we will try to distribute archives via torrent for faster download soon. ....


Oh no, I hate BitTorrent!  
Because (1) this P2P file transfer thing is not that easy to use,
especially for tech dummies like me, and (2) many places still block
BitTorrent for security, legal, capacity, .... reasons.

Well, I think you folks should find out approx. how many

TalkOnly listeners are from abroad.  If there are just a few,
a simple reduction in the bitrates of your overseas streams and
program archives may be enough to stablize online listening and
speed up subsequent downloading.  In that case, there is no need
to offer another file transfer option.

Anyway, thank you, ifg and talkonly, for your attention in this matter.
  
發表於 2009-6-26 19:09:24 | 顯示全部樓層
Oh no, I hate BitTorrent!  
Because (1) this P2P file transfer thing is not that easy to use,
especially for tech dummies like me, and (2) many places still block
BitTorrent for security, le ...
banana 發表於 2009-6-26 15:50


It's unfortunate the Talkonly 30-min segments are always 11~12Mb large, otherwise we can try and put them on Talkonly's MSN SkyDrive (which has a 10Mb limit per file) for download.
 樓主| 發表於 2009-6-27 00:53:54 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 banana 於 2009-6-27 01:41 編輯
ifg 發表於 2009-6-26 19:09
It's unfortunate the Talkonly 30-min segments are always 11~12Mb large, otherwise we can try and put them on Talkonly's MSN SkyDrive (which has a 10Mb limit per file) for download. ...


Oh, well, why must it be unfortunate?  
If only you folks can lower the bitrates to about 20-something kbps,
we can, in theory, halve the size of these program segments!

For me, listening LIVE to TalkOnly is also a painful experience!  
At 48 kbps on Real Player, the streaming process is constantly interrupted
by rebufferings and disconnections.   

I seldom get such interference when I listen live to RTHK and MyRadio
on the internet.  Again, they stream their broadcasts only at 2X kbps.

After all, how difficult is it for you guys to lower your bitrates?  

===============

好啦,言歸正轉....
ifg 你真不該!


大約兩三個星期前,你 no show!
你的女粉絲嘉賓上到錄音室,見唔到你盧山真面目  
幾番細細聲問起你....

雖然我嘅 connection 好差,窒到飛起,每半分鐘左右
要 rebuffer 一次,耐唔耐又 disconnect ....

我都聽得出你搞到人地幾噤失望!!!

我問你:你有冇/點樣去補償你犯下的彌天大過?!
發表於 2009-6-27 03:06:32 | 顯示全部樓層
6# banana

I guess sendspace would be easier for you to download Talkonly Archive!

Enjoy

Talkonly.net
發表於 2009-6-29 18:56:47 | 顯示全部樓層
ifg 你真不該!

大約兩三個星期前,你 no show!
你的女粉絲嘉賓上到錄音室,見唔到你盧山真面目  
幾番細細聲問起你....

banana 發表於 2009-6-27 00:53


oh... that's really 真不該
but i made amend and asked the great speaker to return to the show just 2 weeks ago

as for the bitrate ... i think I'll be able to do sth. about it with the archive from this week onwards
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